Piercing The Darkness

Just had a random, crazy thought....what if 2012 is all about Iapetus, the "artificial" moon of Jupiter, the one with the wall or ridge around it's equator?

(http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/images/news/iap9.jpg)

IF Iapetus is artificial, then what is it's purpose? I've asked myself that for years. Jupiter has plenty of moons, and didn't really need another one. Or if the whole thing isn't artificial, then one is still left with that crazy ridge that doesn't belong there. What is it and why is it there? Richard Hoagland has suggested "In other words -- what if Iapetus is not a natural satellite at all ... but a 900-mile wide spacecraft … an artificial “moon?!.. placed in orbit around Saturn for “some reason” … a long, long time ago."  Iapetus seems to be constructed as a geodesic sphere, like the one below.

(http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/images/news/iap7.jpg)

Here's a picture of Iapetus with a picture of Star Wars' Death Star. Compare the two.

(http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/deathstar.gif)
(http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/Iapetus.gif)

So here's my thought....Iapetus is rigged to explode or fire into Jupiter  in 2012, to try to create the new sun (Mayan new epoch, 2012) of Jupiter. It has unintended consequences, as it affects the rest of the solar system, either Jupiter explodes or the firing up of this planet causes many of it's moons and nearby objects to explode, creating a lot of solar debris, which will come into our neighborhood in a few years. So much debris, in fact, that our sun and moon and the stars will be darkened, as per Biblical prophecy.

Ok, I don't know what happened to my pictures, but I'll try to find them again. The website seems to have disappeared...

Take a look at what has been found in Africa....

(http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/spheres2.gif)

....and compare them with the photos above.

That is incredibly interesting!

Interesting speculation!

Iapetos was one of the Titans, son of Ouranos (Heaven) and Gaia (Earth). He was cast into Tartaroo ... on the plane of the elliptic into "outter darkness". I believe Iapetus was once a moon of earth.
The craters on Iapatos are NOT meteorlogical: an impact of those dimensions would have shattered it. They were caused by plasma bolts and the equatorial bulge was a compression feature as Iapetos travelled through the stripped "waters" of Mars which inundated the earth before Genesis 1. ( some of the oceanic life of the earth is really Martian in origin: I believe the earth was hit with a watery mass called Oceanus. If one is looking for the Oceans of Mars they need merely go to the beach.
In Hebrew mythology these are the waters of Nun. They are also the Primeval Waters of Chaos.
Whither Jupiter will become the "day Star" is interesting though, Regis of a new creation.
About 2012. I believe it to be a wheel system rather like the Antikithera ... only remembered as the stone version. The wheels should independently rotate though the impression is monolithic from the piece itself. The calendar is angellic and most likely the skill was given to Kukulkhan to construct it. Angels are to me obviously the "middlemen" of many of the earth's mysteries. The scriptures are filled with it and I believe that the subject of "angels" is the most poorly understood portion of the scriptures, to the extent that that the "revelation" of angels will be the focus of the next Millenium. There are lots of "surprises" waiting in the wings...haha
2012 is ABOUT the "descent" of the Host of Darkness. What people don't get about this is that it will be a new age of Tyranny which begins as the rebuilding of Tyre as the capital of the world. It will make Dubai look like a prequel. I believe Tyre will be brought back from the sea and become the international exchange for all earthly transactions, settlements, and courts. The UN will relocate and become the world parliament. Money and energy will become equivalencies. All resources will become
denominated in that equvalency down to the last molecule of substance. From a spiritual point of view the flesh will be King and men will become lovers of nothing but themselves. We're well on the road to that now.

I'm thinking Iapetus is not naturally made, as no where else in the whole solar system have we found a moon with a belly ridge around the equator like Iapetus. The density of this moon is 1.1 grams per cubic meter, about the density of ice with a little rock thrown in. Iapetus can't sustain that mountain ridge against it's own gravity if it were only ice with a few rocks. Also, all the other moons orbit in the plane of Saturn’s equator, but Iapatus orbits at about a 15 degree angle from the others.

As for the surface of Iapetus..."it looks like the bright side [of Iapetus] is primarily water ice – [but] not fresh water ice, because the reflectivity (although it is bright, it reflects about 60% of the radiation)­ … [is] kind of like dirty snow. So, we think there is something else there, other than pure water ice ... there is some organic material [there], some carbonate material that's rich in carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. Kind of crud; I think you could call it crud. The dark side, though, has very little water ice. It's primarily minerals and various organic material(s)….  We seem to [also] see a mineral that is iron- bearing in the infrared..." (Bonnie Buratti, Principal Scientist, Division of Earth and Space Sciences, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), in Pasadena, California) Why does this moon have iron whereas the others do not? And, too, this iron-based coating will absorb the remaining visible and radio electromagnetic energy coming its way. If it's absorbing this energy, then why? Is it being stored? And if so, for what purpose?

I find the Mayan calendar extremely interesting, as Bluehorse is right about the wheels and the likeness to the Antikithera. The wheels seem, to me, to be based on astrological rotations such as the moon, Venus, etc. with each wheel tracing a different celestial object. But what is the long count tracing... 1872000 days, approximately equal to 5125.36 years? The origin date and end date are both determined by intermediate dates which have been attached to our calendar. But what if the origin date of 3114 BC was not the object of the calendar, but rather the end date of 2012?

I agree with Bluehorse also on the idea of 2012 being about the descent of the middlemen, the angels, the host of darkness. I think it is quite possible that they are involved with Iapetus, and could have easily given the end date to the Mayans.


 

You guys really come up with some wild theories. I hope this is not another case of SSS (Superbowl Steve-Syndrome).  :laughing-smiley-002:

http://www.viewzone.com/impressions/ (http://www.viewzone.com/impressions/)

This gives a better impression of what the Mayan calendar IS. It's a computer. Click on page three. (I don't know to imbed images.)
 My watch only gives the seconds, minutes, hours, days, and months. This chronograph measured time for over five millenia.

Who is "Superbowl  Steve"?  A football player?  Does he have a theory about time? ...

I call the Mayan idea of time vision-time, not a whole lot different than space/time. If "Superbowl Steve" were to expand his notions of football, in the Mayan "game", the whole cycle of space/time was acted out as a transformation cycle ... is our calendar so different...don't we act out the year? and I might add, with considerably less "vision".

We do it over and over like lemmings, as if "time" wern't sacred. You will find that the scriptures have a great deal to say about time. The ancients regarded it as a triplicity of sorts ...space/time and spirit. The Mayans were closer to what the Bible calls time then we are today in our culture. The wheel is an alpha/omega wheel.

It doesn't end at 2012. Nor will your watch stop ticking...until the end of time.

That's an interesting idea about time....space and spirit being of it's essence. I agree with that, as I believe that the spiral aspect of the galaxy itself is the evidence of time, and I believe that time works in exactly that way....spiral, and therefore also spacial.

I agree with your assessment of the Mayan calendar, as a computer. But my question is this: each wheel of the clock keeps track of different elements of time, different periods relating to aspects of the cosmos in some way. The 260 day cycle clocks the transit of venus, for example. So what does the 5125 year track? The only thing that I can make it out to be watching is the great galactic cycle of 25,800 years, only they would say 25625 years in that case, and in a fifth of that time period, thereby gaining the 'fifth world'. The problem with this is that their previous worlds don't fit into the mold. So what does 5125 relate to? Why 5125 in the first place? Why not 5289? And why start the cycle at 3114 BC? Or was there something they were tracking to occur in 2012 that they were interested in, and they started the countdown in 3114 BC? Something that they did in 3114 BC that was scheduled to happen in 2012....something big, to bring in the next 'world', the new sun, in order that we are 'transformed' into higher creatures, more spiritual beings.

I don't think anything ends in 2012, as I am suggesting that perhaps something happens, which was designed long ago to happen, in 2012 in order to bring in the "New Age".

No, he was a conspiracy theorist who predicted all kinds of things to happen which did not happen. His stuff was
interesting but so are most conspiracy theories. You listen to them more in a way of being entertained but really
believing that they will happen isn't possible. I don't know if it's worth getting too caught up in things. Maybe 2012
is over and nothing happened and then? Then all the people who spent years researching this stuff will feel pretty dumb.

Consider that Saturn was called Chronos by the Greeks, which is also their word for Time. Why is this planet called Time? And why was the Latin Saturnalia (the Greek Cronia) festival in the middle of December, which is when the 2012 'event' is supposed to happen?


Links to a mythical golden age in the past, or one in the future? Or both? And lighting candles could represent what they suggest, but it could also be more...especially if one considers our age one of darkness and this new age coming to be one of light. If so, then what does Saturn called Time have to do with it?

Hi Christie!

I find this interesting as well.

My little handicapped boy used to have the wildest dreams.  Even when he was barely out of his toddler years he told me about these evil creatures buried in the rocks on Mars.  And now that he has progressed and can write, he draws pictures and writes stories about them.

He was drawing hieroglyphics, maps, caves, creatures, etc... as well.  His special ed teacher could not believe how detailed they were, this was the second grade.   They entered it into a competition and it won an award.  Had he had not been retarded he could have gone national.

He said he draws what he sees in the dreams.

He talked a lot about those monster men gods who were put in the rocks there because they were bad.

Speaking of the monster men gods being put in the rocks of Mars....very interesting. And so I thought, well, why Mars? I've read many times about the angels who were put in Tartarus being chained there, and elsewhere I've read that these chains are made of iron. Somehow iron must negate their strength and energy, like shortcircuiting it or something. And then Mars has a lot of iron on its surface.

I've wondered if perhaps these angels who came to earth and did all that the ancients claimed that they did, that when they knew the Flood was coming, headed for Mars to escape. There they built up their fortress to wait out the disasters coming to the earth. But they got buried there in the whole ordeal. I don't believe that the Flood was just an earthly phenomena, as I believe the whole heavens were involved. As I believe it will be again during the next cataclysm, the one by fire.

So my next question is, if they knew that the earth would be destroyed once by water and once by fire, and they escaped the flood, then did they plan for the fire also? Is Iapetus part of that plan to offset the fire devastation?

Saturn was the Chaldean "hidden One" . Saturn and "mystery" are one in meaning. As "mystery"  signifies a hidden system, so does its correlative "Saturn" signify "the hidden god". In other words "saturn" is the god Nimrod. In Chaldean, S..T..U..R  is 666, even if pronounced Satur, since it consisted of four letters. The Chaldean system came to Rome and Rome was first called Saturnia...that was it's original name.
These Chaldeans E. Martin calls "The People Time Forgot". To this day Cardinals wear the "saturno", that flat-brimmed hat representing Saturn.

Whither Saturn should be equated with the Greek Chronos I can't say. There's some confabulation. In the Greek system the Titans seem to be inclusive of Saturn...and Hesiod tells us Iapetus was the mother of Prometheus.

Saturn killed Jupiter with a scythe, his father according to some. He castrated him, ensuring that Celus, or Jupiter, wouldn't have any progeny. It's easy to see this story is veiled. In the Hebrew myth of Cain and Abel, certain elements in the story have parallels. We're not told how Cain killed Abel, but it was bloody, it was likely about progeny, and Cain, like Saturn was "agrarian" in typology. Osirus, in Egyptian myth was also "cut up into pieces", and castrated. Somehow, these stories are all oddly similar, sharing various ritual elements, one adding something to the story and another taking it away.

Just as Isis appears to have demanded circumcision both in memory of Osirus' ordeal
and that men should share in the pains of childbirth so did the Chaldeans demand either castration or celibacy, depending on one's level of induction into the "mysteries".

It doesn't take much to realize that the Papal system is the legal representative of Saturn on earth. What ties these streams together is "paradise lost", innocence before the first murder, equated with "the golden age of saturn", a drama with a number of "acts", a  drama which we call the "FALL". Being too literal about these stories in fact ruins them. Sometimes useless facts about things are the essence of the story: evaluating these things can be nothing but a labyrinth.

If the lunar cycle is 28 days and the Saturn cycle is 28 years: there you have it. A YEAR FOR A DAY. And, if a "day is as a thousand years", the whole cycle of "time" is 28,000 years.

In my understanding, Cain was given the right to rule over the earth. So, I'm not bashing Catholics. The "men in black" have taken many forms in our world: you'll find them wherever "jurisprudence" is "king". The best book I think written on the subject of "rule over iniquity" was by Tupper Saussy. You'll also find the Pillar of Saturn in the Jewish Temple...the pillar of "severity" as opposed to "mercy".

I wonder if Gilgal isn't how the ancients envisioned the planet Saturn, rather like a spoked wheel. I do believe that the Egyptians had crude optical lens. ( the eye of Horus )

There's an interview with a fellow named Ken Klien coming up on Coast to Coast on Feb 23 I believe. It's regarding the "host of darkness" spoken about by Paul in Ephesians ... I like Klien's take on things so this is a blatant advertisment to listen. It's very seldom I ever listen to Coast to Coast but Klien should pick it up a bit. The reason I like him is that I think he has the "angel thing" right for the most part. I think it's the major topic of our day and Klien brings some serious theology to the table. For those interested in spiritual anatomy, the nature of the fall, and the Enoch materials, this is a sort of must listen. You won't hear anything quite like it elsewhere and it is gauranteed to resonate with some around here who take a real interest in angels, their origins, nature, and interactive functions. You may see some scriptures come alive in ways before unconsidered. Klien is extremely knowledgeable in many areas and explains his insights clearly.  Very listenable dude...who also has great interest in the pyramids and the career of Enoch. He might be right....but it is necessary to hear of these matters in a non-preachy sort of way on the one hand and on the other hand in a non wildly speculative way. Very ballanced stuff I think.
I think Klien blows a lot of the current ballarenas off the stage. So, there you have it: my one and only posted advertisement. I don't know how deep he'll get into it given the audience, but if you don't know a zith from a zam it could be interesting for you.

Thanks for the heads up.  I used to listen to Coast to Coast all the time.  Now I am more selective, sounds interesting.

I think the Saturn cycle is 29.5 years, but I may be wrong on that.

Speaking of wheeled images, take a look at this Sumerian image and note not just the spoked detail, but the fish god and the flying whatever it is with people in it  ;D

(http://mathildasweirdworldweblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/annunaki.jpg)

Sorry, my bad...a lunar cycle is 29.5 days. ;D

First of all, it's reminiscent of a cartoon of a cartoon ... without the "bam" it's meaningless...one doesn't form a gestalt of the separate elements. Some of the elements may be in a different time, sequence of action, or have other meanings , especially  when juxtraposed in a single frame. Nor, in the case of a seal, do we not only not know the antecedent linguistic components, neither do we understand why the elements exist in a single cartoon. We don't have a hierarchy of significance in other words.
However, we have the fact that myth is comparative, persistant, and iconographic. It's symbols have duration so it's not as if there is no framework for historical comparrison or even juxtraposition in other culture frameworks. If we see the symbols come up in multiple contexts we have a beginning point and if enough elements translate into relationships in another context, the language of symbol and sign speaks, even if it cannot tell the whole story.
It's like trying to break a code ... if the value of one element is known, it casts light on the meaning of the others. But, without the "bam", its cognates are diminishing values. It is still a matter of interpretation.
The centerpiece is the omphalos, which to the ancients was usually a "stone". The Egyptian omphalos was the ben ben stone. The Greek version was an omphalos such as was kept at Dodona. Something not recognized as an omphalos but which formed the function of an omphalos was the Aztec prickly pear cactus. Jacob's stone was also an omphalos, or type of pillar. It is the function of the "pillar" which is important. It acted as an anchor. Birds were usually associated with the omphalos, a dove, a falcon, or an ibis, or even a ladder, since the archetypal thought includes the thought of descending and ascending.
Next, the guys in the "sky thingy": they appear in the MesoAmerican mythos as "the paddler gods", in exactly the same way. They are "old jaguar, stingray, and turtle", and are part of the Mayan cosmogenesis of  "first world". The "skythingy" is really a reed raft. But, of course, this "raft" is not being paddled on a river..it is being paddled on "celestial waters", traversing planets, sun, and moon, little different than Pharoah's boat.
In Aug of 3114 the zodiac stood vertical to the horizon in Sumer which was forming its early city states about that time. This is the beginning of the Mayan calendar., possibly of all calendars .The "world tree" or axis of the Milky Way to the horizon was celebrated as many things. The Maya pictured it this way: the paddler gods above the world tree which was iconographically made of waves of water falling vertically to the earth. It was a dualistic creation symbol. This "cross" of the elliptic with the Milky Way was always associated with water and the tree of life.
Hidding in the reeds is a horned serpent, on the lower left. In MesoAmerica for example this character appears as a serpent with deer antlers. In the Bible this character appears as Leviathin. We find him in Chinese myth as the water dragon, also horned, and in Scandanavian lore on the dragon boats and in the mythos of the sea serpent, or in Egypt as the "crocodile".
He is derived from one of the Babylonian MulAn, on that band of the Zodiac known as "Enki"s Way". Eventually he winds up as Orphiuchus in the  zodiac, the only real person in the "signs", in fact the 13th sign of Enki/Imhotep whose symbol was a "serpent". That is why the "serpent" is identified both with Enki and with Questzalcoatl.
So, who is fishguy...in MesoAmerica he is Kukulkan. But, there are some subtleties going on. In Queche Maya Kukulkan is Gugamatz. Ku..and Gu are dialects. Ku/Ku means "ancestors".."gu" means "fish".
But, back to the reed boat in the sky ...it is held aloft by a wing...in this case the tailfeathers of a falcon/eagle. Recall what I said about the Aztec omphalos ... an eagle holding a serpent in its talons and alighting on a prickly pear cactus. This omphalos was the centre of T-Enoch_titlan.
What is going on in this seal is in my opinion an astronomer priest similar to Oannes/Kulkulkan explaining the world tree to the person who used the seal as a priestly sign of authority. It meant that he was "schooled" in the ancestral traditions of Shinar and that he knew the cosmology of creation. I also think there were many Kukulkans ... ie, fish -priests. They were always seen to have come "from the sea". Their attire signified the waters above in which the stars floated. Essentially they were the calendar makers and culture bearers.
What is interesting about this mythos is that it is the myth of Satan who bears all these characteristics as secondary values, once you see it. This "character" also goes "to and fro and up and down" in the form of the cross of the world tree. It is no different to this day...Oannes appears in the garb of the Pope as the fish-guy, as hierophant of mysteries. There is far more in this little clay seal than people might expect, not because I'm reading "into" it either. There is layer upon layer in our own mythic understanding of the world.

Here's Mimas, another moon of Saturn.

(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID10722/images/1mimas.jpg)

For an impact crater, this has a very interesting shape. That would mean that whatever impacted it was hollow in the center and it is 130 km across, its diameter is almost a third of the moon's own diameter; its walls are approximately 5 km high, parts of its floor measure 10 km deep, and its central peak rises 6 km above the crater floor.

With no atmosphere to slow a "meteor" the impact is greater.  Also, with gravity at such low numbers, the after-effects of a stirke would likely be a different arrangement of features. It would not be so symetrical, especially if rotation is still occuring. And what is not explained is this: impact distribution...these are spheres!!!! meterorites coming from all directions with seemingly a total coverage of the sphere???
I think the theory of comets and asteroids is bunk. There is something else going on here and I don't understand it at all, perhaps some energetic phenomenonon for which we as yet have no model.
There must be some other explanation .... other factors not even considered...one of the least understood sciences is planetary formation in whatever form...if there was a "formative age" we don't have all the information...so, we make theories accordingly...subject to change. This "cosmic ball" would have been kicked all over the football field...as it were. If so, there must have been an extremely violent age. Nor could it have been that long in duration or there would more intersecting impact zones. What's hard to believe is that the impact distibution seems so uniform.

Yes, I agree. And what makes Saturn's moons so interesting is that they seem to defy the established pattern of other moons in the solar system, especially Iapetus. There is absolutely no other moon like it, and then these odd impact craters....something is not right here.

(http://ciclops.org/media/me/2010/6188_14533_1.jpg)

Another view of Mimas.
I don't know what is with the two 'sides' to the picture, as it appears that the division doesn't follow through on the bottom part of the photograph.

OK...a metaphysical rant:

There are a number of cosmic forces described in the scrtiptures  is iron and clay. This is suggested to me by the "blistered" surface features of Mimas. The application of the idea of iron and clay is not so far off, when one realizes the two formative forces being utilized in the production of "pots + kiln" and "iron + heat".
A potter's wheel depends on centrifical force to produce a centre of gravity in a mass. The iron must be smelted in a forge/crucible under intense heat.
"Iron and clay do not cleeve": in the smelting process the clay forms slake and rises to the surface. On a potter's wheel, the heavier iron would throw the pot apart. That is why clay must be uniform to work it. And, it must be kneeded, or it will explode in the kiln. That is, consistency of mass is an essential to a successful "firing".
A differnetial in mass can be anything...water, air, type of clay, ...an unequal expansion of heat will crack the pot.
What you can see on Mimas are two things..."blisters" and "craters". A "blister" is a gas dome. A "crater" is a collapsed "blister". ( I used to blow glass so I've watched these things in glory holes, especially when using melts of different glasses. ) A glory hole is just a glass furnace. An annealing oven is the opposite of a kiln, a high temperature furnace used to slowly reduce the temperature of the fired glass. If not, the glass would cool too fast and shatter because heatloss isn't uniform in an irregular object.  Neither are two pieces ever identical unless great care is taken to make it so, especially when it comes to composition. Another story.
( Hey, it's Friday nite and I don't have a date...)

Now, what would happen if the internal heat of a semi-molten blob were still slaking into the surface tensions of a formative moon that also had a high spin. Blisters would form in the intense cold of space. They would be of all shapes and sizes. They would shatter. Some would vent elsewhere and not shatter. Some would not even emerge to the surface and form gas pockets underground, beneath the surface. And, if my little theory holds any water, you would other features also, such as glass, which would raise the albedo, or surface reflectivity. In fact, I'm sure you'd find a lot of the features people moon about, like walls, towers, and tubes, especially if electrical effects are a part of the model.

The node at the centre of a crater is the primary vent. It's just that we've never seen one "explode" and blow off or the dust settle.

Wouldn't these moons have to contain large amounts of silica in order to produce glass?

Why wouldn't they? The moon does. And it has even "rained" glass on the earth. If "vulcanism" is part of the process of "formation" then glass dust would be a given. The Egyptians prized this "glass" very highly and it is still collected in the Sahara ... it's composition is quite strange.
I like the interpretation of Gen 1 as "Aforetime....." rather than "In the beginning..."
It implies that succeeding "yoms" are a theological construction, the basis of any calendar.
My little joke is that ET time is "earth time". Now I'm being sardonic. Maybe I'm chronophobic. I think our whole culture is.... and it's driving people crazy in more ways than a mad hatter. It's not about money...it's about money on time. Now we're all dancing to the same clock...if anything capsizes civilization this is it. Whoever said the devil can't dance? I tell ya, we're loosing our souls to time. Metaphysically our goose is cooked before we even have the time to think about our destiny and its origins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbI1FpLd4Vk#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbI1FpLd4Vk#noexternalembed)