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Title: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: facedown on February 02, 2010, 04:24:20 PM
I never knew that.

He has an old album called "saved" which sounds pretty christian.
http://www.bobdylan.com/# (http://www.bobdylan.com/#)



Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: Bluehorse on February 02, 2010, 07:35:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0yRbe_6LqY#noexternalembed&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0yRbe_6LqY#noexternalembed&feature=related)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: facedown on February 03, 2010, 05:59:36 AM
Awesome speech. He sounds like he's totally into his faith.

Do you know if he is still as outspoken about his faith today or has he reduced this?


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: David on February 03, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
Awesome speech. He sounds like he's totally into his faith.

Do you know if he is still as outspoken about his faith today or has he reduced this?

Well, I don't know about today, but there was some question about his "faith" a few years after this.

David


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: facedown on February 05, 2010, 10:05:38 AM
you mean he forsook it or never really believed?


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: David on February 06, 2010, 12:45:41 PM
you mean he forsook it or never really believed?

I think he believed kinda like Judas did. He could have also been described as the seed planted in the thorns and got chocked out by the cares of the world.

David


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: hardamber on February 06, 2010, 02:40:42 PM
Well if Dylan is any kind of a christian, why would he be singing about the crossroads in 1999 with Eric Clapton?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocHHVi7tBqk#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocHHVi7tBqk#noexternalembed)

I would put the video on here, but I forgot how.


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: facedown on February 09, 2010, 10:49:50 AM
Maybe Dylan does not know that this song is occult.
I don't know if this alone proves that he cannot be a christian anymore.


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: hardamber on February 09, 2010, 07:59:08 PM
Everyone in the business knows what that song is about. 


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: Winter on February 10, 2010, 08:13:05 AM
He is singing about life.  And art in all it's forms is a way to safely tell a story. Well, most of the time.  Wasn't that safe for Stanley Kubrick.


As someone who lived in the deep (and I do mean deep) South, I know the song has more than one meaning.    An excellent article:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Road_Blues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Road_Blues)

BTW, the real crossroads happens to be in Mississippi! Everyone who lives or lived there knows that!  LOL

The song was sung in that video for a rehab that was opening, makes perfect sense to me.


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: facedown on February 10, 2010, 06:34:48 PM
What exactly is the story of this crossroad? Is it just the story of this blues guitarist or have real things happened there like accidents?
And why are crossroads generally supposed to be a place of demonic activity?
Is there any real explanation for this?


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: Winter on February 10, 2010, 07:07:31 PM
It is just a deeply ingrained superstition that exists in almost every culture that dates back thousands of years.

They used to bury suicides at crossroads, for it was unhallowed ground and a suicide could not be buried in a church cemetery. It was supposed to keep their restless spirits from rising.

Some cultures buried people they thought were vampires or would become vampires at the crossroads, while other cultures thought it was a place vampires hung out at. 

While other parts of the world buried them there because they thought if they rose, they would become confused.

But no matter the belief, the crossroads where a place you did not want to be at night.

Here is an old saying from Gypsy legends, to be quoted when they first saw the vampire or felt it:

"Go O Demonic Power, the Soul of the Vampire, to the Crossroads, so that the wolves may tear you to pieces, there is no place for you here among our Good Souls."

It is just a fear that has survived for thousands of years, the birth of the Blues added it's own story to the fabric of time.


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: hardamber on February 10, 2010, 07:21:26 PM
What exactly is the story of this crossroad? Is it just the story of this blues guitarist or have real things happened there like accidents?
And why are crossroads generally supposed to be a place of demonic activity?
Is there any real explanation for this?


Go to 6:20 in this video for the crossroads story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Aml1RZsxqw#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Aml1RZsxqw#noexternalembed)

The video continues here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMfM_87tec#noexternalembed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMfM_87tec#noexternalembed)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: Bluehorse on February 12, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
Can you imagine a directionally challenged person turned around three times at a crossroads? I know someone like that...ever hear of the word "LOST". haha
I tried listening to that video...yetch. The "satan was a choirmaster thing" is bolox. Pied Piper of Hamlin theology.
I knew Dylan...he had a peculiar angst to him as do many artists. Similar to Leonard Cohen in some ways.
Anyway, that was back "in the day".
Why people on this site seem to enjoy skinning people never ceases to amaze me. It's some kind of weird misplaced social criticism. Very unkind when it's mere gossip. Say you fall into line and take up the mantle of righteous condemnation...what do you gain? Mystifies me really.
I think it's a very narrow view of life. Do you actually regard these people roasted on PID as somehow personal enemies? Other people shouldn't be treated as cardboard cutouts for one's own angst to vent on.
Sometimes I just think it's a real lack of something to say.


Title: Re: Bob Dylan is a christian?
Post by: Winter on February 14, 2010, 08:21:50 AM
Even though Dylan is before my time I always kind of saw him as more of a lamb type person.  Very sensitive soul.

I'm not buying that he is evil.  He is the least of my worries.