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God, the Universe, and Everything / The Bible / Re: Rapture now?
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on: April 06, 2010, 12:57:49 AM
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Yes, I guess I am saying that all who have remained here, once the Church is gone to be with Christ, will experience the wrath of God in the form of all that He brings on the earth during that time--the Church was not appointed to experience God's wrath, not the rest of humanity--but, so what, [in a way]?---God still loves them, Christ still died for them--they can still find salvation through trusting in Christ even during that period of time--perhaps one reason they might still be here is due to their refusing to trust in Christ, and perhaps the things going on at that time, might help them to see the error of their ways, and finally agree to trust in Him at last.
I do not understand how you view things, though, concerning God's Holy Spirit--but, I don't honestly care, since I've seen too many of these discussions get absolutely nowhere--I understand it the way I do, and don't understand things the way you do--are you trying to insinuate that because I don't understand this the way you do, that I am not a Christian, or one just in name only? If so--how dare you--and, bye-bye.
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God, the Universe, and Everything / The Bible / Re: Rapture now?
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on: April 05, 2010, 08:51:11 PM
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David--how did God 'save' those, even just from among the Hebrews, before Christ--didn't they have at least some kind of access to God's Holy Spirit 'way back when'? After Christ's resurrection, didn't Christ send God's Holy Spirit to each and every born again believer who became a member of His Body, His Bride the Church, to 'seal' them forever--and, didn't the Holy Spirit then remain within each Christian permanently, unlike the Holy Spirit did not do with those who'd believed in God prior to Christ's birth, life, death and resurrection?[I fully believe that, YES, it was that way, and still is for born again believers in Christ, i.e. Christians] Wasn't God's Holy Spirit sent by Christ to His Church, to seal it's members to God forever, which was different than the way God did things with believers prior to Christ's resurrection? [I believe the answer to that is, Yes]
So, after all of the Body of Christ has been removed from the earth, along with God's Holy Spirit, who had sealed each believer forever in Christ--won't God, the Father, who will be returning to finish up the 'unfinished business' with His 'people Israel', or the Jewish people, during the 70th week of Daniel, then be focusing also on dealing with each individual on earth, including those among His chosen people, in the same way He always did prior to Christ's life, death and resurrection--by indwelling people only at certain times in order to empower them to accomplish His will on this earth--the same as He did with all people who believed in Him prior to Christ's resurrection? [I believe the answer to that is, Yes]
When Christ tells those who are members of the ill-fated "Church at Laodicia", in Rev. chapter 7, to "buy of me", in order to have the righteousness of God with which to hide their 'nakedness', as well as He tells them to use 'eye salve', so that they might finally be able to 'see'--so, as I am understanding that, it will be for them as it was for those who lived prior to the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ--God's Holy Spirit will not be sealing them, in the way that was done for those who were saved by faith in Christ prior to the Rapture of the Church--
--God can preserve them, however, so that they might have eternal life once their life on earth is finished, and they are finally in heaven with the Lord--the members of the Body of Christ are not those who lived prior to Christ, nor will they be those who will remain here once the Body of Christ/the Church is removed by Christ from the earth--Christians are a separate group, wed to Christ as His Bride--all other people, even though they will have eternal life due to their faith in God, [such as Abraham, et.al.], they are not among the body of believers known as the "Bride of Christ"--how God actually manages all of that I still haven't a genuine clue  --yet!!--I just believe that, for Him to handle it, "...it's as easy--as rollin' off a log...!"  --
--and, to try and help prevent anyone from scoffing at the idea that, somehow, for some reason, all Christians, therefore, seem to be treated so much better, due to God sealing them with His Holy Spirit--so that, all Christians have it far easier than the rest of humanity, so therefore are somehow "more special" to God and Christ--I think not, due to what it says in the book of Revelation, in chapter 7--
--it speaks of what God is going to do to reward all those who remained faithful to Him and to His Son, Jesus Christ, all during the terrible, horrible tribulation period, during which not only will they need to endure the wrath poured out by Almighty God, they will also need to endure what anti-Christ will be trying to do to them--God is going to reward them more than handsomely for their remaining true to His Son, Jesus, in the face of such tremendous hardship, danger, and the very real possibly of meeting a gruesome death at the hands of fiends who will be here on earth, such as anti-Christ, and his people--
--what is said in Rev. chapter 7, verses 9 through 17, is why I believe what I just said about this. They will suffer much, but God will even dry their tears Himself[vs.17], once they are safely with Him in heaven.
I take the mention of the 'great tribulation', within that chapter of Rev., as being just that--the great and terrible 'Day of the Lord'/Time of Jacob's Trouble/Daniel's 70th week--a really, really 'bad hair day',  for one and all, who will still be here on earth to be the recipients of God's wrath during that 7 years of time, prior to Christ's Second Coming.
I won't argue over this subject, though--but, reasonable discussion is always welcome.  
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God, the Universe, and Everything / The Bible / Re: Rapture now?
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on: April 01, 2010, 02:42:06 PM
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You didn't read far enough, Face, into that chapter of II Thessalonians--here are the verses that go along with that one:
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition...
...[verse 4 is a description of anti-Christ]...
...Remember ye not that when I was with you I told you these things?
And, now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way.
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders..."[II Thessalonians 2:3-9 KJV]
The apostle Paul is speaking to them[and to us] about the sequence of events, in verse 3, but, as he further explains, he adds something that helps make the sequence of events a bit clearer--but, basically, only if you believe that, "he who now letteth" is God's Holy Spirit[the Church is the Bride of Christ, so I doubt it would be referred to as "he"]--so, when God's Holy Spirit is "taken out of the way"--[out of the way of anti-Christ]--then, anti-Christ can be revealed--because, when God's Holy Spirit is called back up to heaven, we will be going along, too, since we are "sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise", once we've asked Christ to be our Lord and Savior[II Corinthians 1:22]--
--that is, if you believe in a Rapture of the Church by Christ prior to the beginning of God's wrath being poured out onto all who remain here on earth, during what is called the 'Tribulation' period, or the "time of Jacob's trouble", etc., that is--if you don't believe, you don't believe, though--it's basically left to be between you and the Lord, since most Christian denominations seem to have abrogated their responsibilities towards God and Christ, and the Body of Christ, so they don't know what to make of all of that, and generally don't bother with teaching much about it--they show the world merely a "form of godliness" but, actually, they clearly deny "it's power"[II Timothy 3:5], in my opinion.
I'm one who believes in the 'pre-Tribulation' Rapture of the Church by Christ--and, yes, I believe that the Bible teaches that it can happen at any time--and, it's been known down through the years, as our "Blessed Hope".
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God, the Universe, and Everything / The Bible / Re: Satan's fingerprints on the new bible versions
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on: March 21, 2010, 03:00:34 AM
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It wasn't until I met Christ Jesus in May of 1975 that I even considered the Holy Bible, in any version, as something to be trusted, and believed--I have to agree with David, Face, and Hardamber about all of this, only because, like David experienced, it was God's Holy Spirit who helped settle this for me, but it took time--years even--because the changes made in the more 'modern' versions aren't all that readily noticeable to most of us--some are so subtle that, when I first read a compiled list of them, like the list posted by Face about the changes made in the NIV, I had a tough time really believing it--it was just so mind-bogglingly blatant a thing--and, so totally obvious, but only because someone had gone to all the trouble to catalog those changes, as well as by comparing some of them found in the newer translations directly with the wording found in the King James--and, that's when, as a believer in Christ, you can definitely see that the changes made weakened the meaning of the text--just as Hardamber stated in her note at the beginning of this thread--
--but, it wasn't me who chose which translation I should read--it came about gradually, as I learned more and was able to realize that it wasn't weak Christians who had made those changes--no Christian in their right mind, who believed what God had to say in the last book of His Word, concerning those who would make such changes to His Word, would ever have made those changes without sweating big bullets, and probably passing right out from fear--because, God states through the apostle John exactly what awaits those who do change His Word--only a non-believer, who doesn't believe what the Holy Bible says anyway, would ever dare to make such changes--because, they simply do not believe what it says, to begin with.
I have umpteen different 'modern' translations on my shelves, bought before God's Holy Spirit helped me realize that the one chosen for me to trust is the King James Version--it was the same way for me as it was for David--so, I keep those others not simply because I paid good money for them so cringe at the idea of tossing them out--instead, I keep them for reference material I can use in order to compare verses--and, each time I compare a newer version's version of a verse that differs from the King James in what is obviously a very serious way, [since I can now see that], it only serves to strengthen what I've now been lead to believe, concerning the idea that God truly has blessed only one English translation of His Word, and it's the one most reviled, most ridiculed, and most disdained and hated today--the King James--
--and, I'm now beginning to suspect that, as He promised, His Word can be totally trusted even the English, if the right English translation is chosen--and, the one you are lead to trust by God's Holy Spirit, will be that one in which every 'jot and tittle' of His Word has managed to be preserved--otherwise, if you believe no English translation can be totally trusted, you've just taken away all vestiges of our ability to have a source from God to turn to, in which we can completely trust--
--and, if that's true, then that makes God out to be a liar, since He promised to preserve His Word totally, for all of us who believe in and trust in Christ Jesus to use while on this earth--the promise is contained with in these words--"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God..."[2 Timothy 3:16]--even when His Word is translated into another language, there must be at least one version so completely trustworthy--otherwise, it makes God out to be a liar, since there will always be people who have no access to the manuscripts written in the original languages.
Yes, you can believe in God Almighty, as well as in His Son, Jesus, as Lord and Savior, if God called you to that belief in His Son--but, without a version of God's Word on which to completely rely, you'd have to necessarily remain a Babe in Christ, with no real source to rely on that would help you to grow through spiritually ingesting the 'meat' of God's Word--you'd always have doubt about whether what you'd just read from the version of God's Word you'd chosen was 'really true', or not--and, doubt leads to a genuine lack of the ability to trust in what you are wanting to place your trust in--which is in God's own Word--and, ultimately, in God, Himself.
That's how God's Holy Spirit was finally able to get through to me about this--because trust is so vital where our relationship with God and Christ is concerned.
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: What is David Flynn up to?
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on: February 17, 2010, 03:27:03 AM
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Well, I'm not sure what to say to you, Face, concerning the sources Dr. Flynn uses--I have no idea about Isaac Newton's personal beliefs, either, since I never knew much aobout him or his work before now, and I still don't know much about it really--all I know is that Dr. Flynn's work is amazing in it's calculations that sucessfully demonstrate that God meant for the Temple Mount to be the area on earth where His presence would always remain--tying that very spot within the Temple Mount to Himself, and to heaven, forever--and, by measuring distances from that spot on the Temple Mount to various cities and locations around the world, at which certain things occured that were directly associated with Israel, and with Christ, using nautical miles to measure the distances for occurances that took place after Christ's resurrection, and ascent back into heaven--or all A.D. dates--and, using statute miles to measure all things connected to Israel prior to the birth of Christ---all B.C. dates--it's totally astounding to find within the mileage from the Temple Mount to each spot on earth of significance to Israel and to Christ, the exact YEAR represented in miles that each occurance took place--
--now, what you are saying is that, Dr. Flynn's sources are occult in nature, including Isaac Newton's work, therefore he should not be using it--and, I might agree with you about that, if I hadn't read in that same artilcle you provided us the link to, that nowhere has there ever been found any evidence linking Isaac Newton to the occult-practicing FreeMasons that proved Newton to be one of them--and, due to my finding out about how those same FreeMason/occultists/illuminists have managed to associate other people with their organization, after those people had died--some rather famous people, too--using their names to further their own occutlitic causes, it makes their claims about anyone in the distant past as being occult practiioners with them, highly dubious, and very suspect!--
--so, if they claim Isaac Newton was 'one of them', I'd almost have to ignore their claim until proof positive could be found to support what they say--however, whether any of us who claim Christ as Lord and Savior should ever be looking into such subjects, as the 'prisca sapientia, especially while using occultic sources by which to do so, I truly do suspect that you might very well be right about that one--I had simply never heard about that objection before now--but, I do steer clear of occult-run websites, and will not use info found on a website that is run by a non-Christian 'escapee' from the clutches of the occult/illuminatii, either, since just reading that information I am literally physcially repelled by it--so, I've been considering that reaction to that information as coming from our heavenly Father, and I try to refrain from ever even mentioning the name of that website to anyone else, due to that, as well.
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: What is David Flynn up to?
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on: February 09, 2010, 01:11:17 PM
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Face, that's a fine thing to say about someone whom you do not even know anything about, especially first hand, nor do you even know any of his work from personal experience--I believe Dr. Flynn's work is helping God's people to better understand God's hand in all things, including quite possibly the building of that Great Pyramid, and his work is demonstrating to us God's unmistakable hand that is so obviously present in the founding and maintaining of Jerusalem, itself, and it's relationship to the rest of the entire world--
--but, if you fear being contaminated in some way by even reading any of Dr. Flynn's work, and if you consider him not to be a genuine believer in, and follower of, Jesus Christ, then, by all means, avoid his work at all costs.
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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on: February 08, 2010, 06:04:38 AM
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HI Winter!  Well, from what you've just said, I would not be surprised to find out that the Lord has genuinely blessed your child, and given him such tremendous insight into such things--out of the mouths, and dreams and drawings of babes, huh?! I think it really might be so!--and, I'm not kidding, either--
--because, as I have been looking at pics from those Mars explorers recently, I've been noticing what really do appear to be ugly, twisted 'faces' trapped within the rock formations on the surface of that planet--and, those 'faces' are not like the carvings of faces I've seen pictures of, like the one entitled, "The Crowned Face on Mars"--these are very different from those that appear to be actually carved into the rock sides of mountains on Mars, and those carved faces are simply astounding to me!--[here is a link to pics of that Crowned Face on Mars, so you can see what I mean!]
http://herotwins.hypermart.net/Crowned/CrownedFace.htm
--but, this has all really given me pause to consider why in the world those ugly, twisted-looking faces should be so visible to us, as we look at those kinds of pictures, and also as to just why they really might not fall into the silly category of the "What I see in clouds" type of game we used to play as children--at least to me, anyway! --because, not long ago, someone on another message board posted a Google map of the Mediterranean sea floor, off the coast of Turkey, and the subject was about the Abyss, where the angels who rebelled against God had been locked up--
--so, as I was searching, using that sea floor feature from Google, I thought I began seeing strange looking, ugly, distorted type faces there on the seabed, in the actual sea floor rock or mud, between some of those islands, like Crete, etc.--[now, I don't even know that area or the names of all of those ancient Greek islands, so I am thinking that one of them was named Crete]--but, whatever their names, the more I looked, the more of those oddball twisted, grimacing 'faces' I seemed to be finding on the seabed!--it was wild!--
--and, I was going to bring that up on that message board, too, but I chickened out, fearing that the other posters would think I just had an overly active imagination, or something--now, though, after seeing those same types of twisted, grimacing faces there in the stone surface of Mars in those photos, I am sort of kicking myself for not saying what I thought I'd seen on the bottom of the Mediterranean!
Because, your idea, roadrunner, was actually one along the same lines as the idea that came to me, too--what if--after being locked into that Abyss by God's holy angels on God's orders, those same fallen creatures' features can be seen in the rock, or dirt/mud of the sea floor, and even on the surface of Mars, as though they have been trapped in the rock--or, they can be seen by us as though they are looking up, and out of that Abyss, through the rock surfaces?!
Which might lead to another question--in what dimension is that Abyss located?!--because, for those creatures twisted faces to be able to appear in the rock formations on both earth, and Mars, and they are located within that Abyss--the Abyss could not merely be located in one, physical location, such as the middle of the earth--or, could it?!--
--which really makes something very obvious--this entire subject is really way beyond my ability to grasp, including the idea of other dimensions, and things like that--I'm just not equipped to grapple with a subject this complex, I'm afraid! 
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: The Greatest Threat to America
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on: February 06, 2010, 01:13:53 AM
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Well, I might pay some attention at least, to that article from Pravda, if this country was ever a 'democracy' at all--but, it never has been--it was founded as a REPUBLIC--not a 'dim'ocracy--so, to say the Supreme Court has been somehow undermining our 'dimocracy' for decades now, is totally absurd on it's face--also, where does the author of that ridiculous article in Pravda[[which strangely enough means, "Truth" in Russian--a title it's never deserved since it's inception, btw] get off by claiming such things about the members of the Supreme Court?--they've done what?--destroyed our 'dimocracy', which has never been a part of our country's government?--and, how in the world have they killed more Americans/sanction more murders of more Americans than anyone else on earth--how did they do that, exactly?--
--if the Russian responsible for that article was seriously attempting to make a point that was worth anything at all, I think providing us with something to back up his accusations might have been nice--as it stands, it's nothing more than more mud-slinging, more yellow journalism--more 'hate speech'--against something having to do with the United States--and, nothing more than that--pity--because, if the author of that tripe really had cared at all, and had really been attempting to help out the citizens of our country, the article would have contained such facts and figures--and, at this point, I think we could use some decent support that would actually provide some concrete help for us in our current situation--
--yet, all that article offers us is more of what we've gotten from the Russians, among others, for what seems like forever now--reading that article offered us nothing more than a Tokyo Rose broadcast offered the allies during WW II, in my opinion, and was just about as harmful to us as Tokyo Rose, as well.
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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on: February 06, 2010, 12:41:22 AM
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I find this subject fascinating, but so way beyond me that all I do is struggle to try and really understand any of it--but, I did read awhile back, that some believe that Iapetus, if it's artificial[which it definitely does appear to be] might be "Tartarus"--the place that the apostle Paul spoke about, in which some of the demonic, fallen angels have been imprisoned--also, it was mentioned that a "bottomless pit" might be a 'pit' that is round, and hollow, and in which it's occupants would be weightless--thus--there really would be no up or down, so--no bottom to it--and, that perhaps Iapetus, if it really is aka "Tararus", those fallen angels chained inside of it by God's angels, might really have an important role to play during satan's reign on earth, once he and his fallen angel followers are finally thrown bodily out of heaven during the Tribulation period---the speculation was--what if the angel who had the key to the bottomless pit, and who opens it, and lets out those fallen angels that are chained within it, out--actually goes to Iapetus, unlocks it's 'door', and let's those fallen beings out of it?--it was a very interesting premise to say the least!--
--and, Iapetus was thought to literally be something like that 'Death Star', because it could be used as such, once those fallen angels are unchained, and allowed to use it--will they 'drive' Iapetus here to earth, and use it against mankind left here on earth, in 'the end'?--I don't know, but wouldn't that make a whale of a good sci-fi story?!--or, has one already been written using that as it's main plot vehicle?!  Anyway, I just think all of this is so amazing!
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: Obama Greater Than Jesus
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on: February 05, 2010, 11:57:49 PM
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Oh, wow--it's things like that ridiculous article that keep making me just cringe whenever I think of just how much Danish blood courses through my veins--what a bunch of silly rubbish! --
--the other day I read a post by some guy who has written a mystery book[novel] in which he claimed to have said some things about God, and Christ, that 'might' appear to some of us as being blasphemous, or heretical--after I said something to him concerning my own faith in God and Christ, in his reply note back to me he demonstrated exactly how little respect he really has for the God who created him, along with this entire universe--so, I said something to him in my reply about his obviously total lack of any genuine "fear of the LORD", due to the things he said about God that were so downright insulting--but, oh-so typical of things said by many people who have that sort of arrogant attitude--
--I had hoped he would respond back to me, because I felt we needed to have a chat about it all--but, he never did even return to the message board I was posting on--oh, well--but, so far as I can tell, the things claimed in that outrageous, Danish paper's article are actually becoming "mainstream", and to me, it's downright frightening--people really are demonstrating just how totally 'braindead' they genuine are becoming these days--they never bother to read, nor do any in depth research into any ideas they adhere to these days--if they like what they hear, they simply jump on board with it, and to blazes with everyone, or everything else that contradicts what they wish to believe--
--they simply do not believe anything is all that serious, nor any beliefs are the 'right' ones to have--all truth is 'relevant'--it's like saying "All truth is local", the way they now claim politics is all local--it's absurd!--but, try telling them that! So, if anyone claims that obama is somehow greater than Jesus Christ, I think we can be pretty sure that they know next to nothing about Christ, and probably about that much about Obama, too--and, are simply jumping on board the party wagon of their current desires--and, will not be willing to discuss any of it with anyone who might try to offer them at least some 'clue' as to the lives and works of either Jesus Christ, or the guy who now appears to be His current 'chief rival' in this half-crazed, cukoo-nut-filled world!
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: What is David Flynn up to?
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on: February 05, 2010, 11:28:59 PM
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So far as I know Dr. Flynn didn't predict a Rapture of the Church in May of 2009--he came up with some very amazing mathematical figures drawn from certain dates, and certain mileage between the Temple Mount in Jerusalem to other locations at which things had occurred that were directly associated with the Jewish people, and to Jerusalem, and Israel, that were mind-blowingly stunning--and, he did say that July 11th, 2009[or, was it July 9th?--I'm just not good at remembering numbers!] left 1260 days until 12/21/2012, and that, possibly, the first half of the tribulation might begin on July 11th[or9th] of last year, and the 2 witnesses mentioned in Revelation might be preaching beginning on that date in last July, and be killed on 12/21/2012, then rise from the dead on Christmas Day--12/25/2012, thus beginning in ernest the worst half of the tribulation period of God's wrath directed at disobedient, rebellious mankind that are still here on earth--
---BUT, Dr. Flynn never said the tribulation did occur last year, nor did he ever claim that the Church would be Raptured out of here during May of last year--I post on Dr. Flynn's board these days, and even though I'm lousy at understanding all of the wonderful mathematical calculations that he comes up with, I fully respect his work, and honestly do believe he is definitely on to something important due to his calculations--and, he's had to defend against accusations concerning some of the dates found in his work, etc.--but, mostly from those who really haven't read his work, or understand what he's been saying about his calculations--
--for instance--even though last July didn't seem to usher in the first part of the Tribulation period, maybe the figures point to the fact--possibly--that the nwo characters, who follow and worship satan, [while wanting to believe satan is the 'real God']--that it's those gnostic unbelievers who might be trying to make Christians believe the tribulation period had begun last July--why?--because they know we believe what it says in Daniel and Revelation--they don't--but, they might be attempting to make us believe that in order to try and manipulate us for their own sinful reasons, or gain--gaining control over others is one of their goals, after all--also, they are looking to usher in their own version of Jesus Christ, in the person of the anti-Christ, who will attempt to fool us all into believing that he is really the genuine Messiah/Christ Jesus--
--yet, while they're trying to make it appear to Christians that the Tribulation has begun, God is still working to bring the entire world to the point at which the real Tribulation period will begin, unbeknownst to the occult adherents/gnostic unbelievers who make up the 'elitist' new world order cast of characters--
--I don't honestly know, but it's just one idea, and something to think about--like that Hegelian dialectic possibly being pulled on us all--I believe that is quite possible--I agree with what Sharon said in her and Derek's PID broadcast for January 31st, about what really might be taking place, with Obama being "the Hoover"-type president set in place in order to upset us into voting him out, but voting whom the nwo people really want in that office--someone whom we might wish we'd been wise enough to avoid voting in, no matter how awful Obama really is as a genuine president of this country--
--to me, we really might be being unconsciously manipulated by those who are behind the nwo--but, I know of no way to prove such a thing--so, I just plan on keeping my eyes and ears open, and stick closer and closer to Christ Jesus, as this entire end times scenario plays itself out--and, do as much as I can to work for the Lord Jesus in this world, before I leave it, whenever God Almighty is ready for me to do so.
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General Category / General Discussion / Re: Glenn Beck Poster
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on: September 17, 2009, 08:50:19 PM
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Thanks, Daniel, for letting us know that about who ran that DC gathering, and who it was that was really responsible for that Bolshevik-style poster--I keep hoping that Beck is a genuinely patriotic American, but, it's things such as him being linked[wrongly] to that poster, that keep me on the edge of my chair--sometimes, I almost expect him to come on his show, then suddenly shout at us, "April Fools!--Gotcha!!"--then, rip off his mask--with him turning out to actually be Al Gore!--too weird, I know --
--but, I really do fear for Beck's safety, and he's even said he fears for his own safety now, too, and, more so, as he goes further into exposing all of the disgusting corruption within the gov.--it's too bad the private sector doesn't also have a "witness relocation program", because I keep fearing that, eventually, he is really going to need to 'drop out of sight', on a permanent basis, thanks to exposing so much of the corruption, and naming names, etc.--unfortunately, people have met their doom who've done far less than he already has.
And, Beck is one of the most funny, and entertaining guys I think I've ever seen in my life--he delivers things up in all seriousness, but, then, uses the humor to help get his points across, and I love that--that's also partially why I love listening to Derek and Sharon's PIDRadio show!---and, with Beck, half the time I'm laughing at how cute his antics really are, and the other half admiring how he can suddenly switch from clowning, to straight-faced and deadly serious, practically in the blink of an eye--
--but, I genuinely pay attention to what he is telling us about what's going on--I held my breath to see if what he was doing had a positive effect on the majority of Americans, and I am so completely overjoyed at how so many people are responding to what he is telling us, and showing us--
--I understand it's more than likely going to prove to be nothing more than a temporary 'holding action', that will enable us to push back against the evils of what's going on due to the liberal/misnamed-progressives, and their completely misguided, and corrupt desires, that are nearly destroying our country--but, I see it as a blessing from God, and an answer to prayer-- 
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