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roadrunner
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2012 and Iapetus
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January 27, 2010, 04:34:16 PM »
Just had a random, crazy thought....what if 2012 is all about Iapetus, the "artificial" moon of Jupiter, the one with the wall or ridge around it's equator?
IF Iapetus is artificial, then what is it's purpose? I've asked myself that for years. Jupiter has plenty of moons, and didn't really need another one. Or if the whole thing isn't artificial, then one is still left with that crazy ridge that doesn't belong there. What is it and why is it there? Richard Hoagland has suggested "In other words -- what if Iapetus is not a natural satellite at all ... but a 900-mile wide spacecraft … an artificial “moon?!.. placed in orbit around Saturn for “some reason” … a long, long time ago." Iapetus seems to be constructed as a geodesic sphere, like the one below.
Here's a picture of Iapetus with a picture of Star Wars' Death Star. Compare the two.
So here's my thought....Iapetus is rigged to explode or fire into Jupiter in 2012, to try to create the new sun (Mayan new epoch, 2012) of Jupiter. It has unintended consequences, as it affects the rest of the solar system, either Jupiter explodes or the firing up of this planet causes many of it's moons and nearby objects to explode, creating a lot of solar debris, which will come into our neighborhood in a few years. So much debris, in fact, that our sun and moon and the stars will be darkened, as per Biblical prophecy.
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roadrunner
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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January 27, 2010, 05:46:39 PM »
Ok, I don't know what happened to my pictures, but I'll try to find them again. The website seems to have disappeared...
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roadrunner
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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January 27, 2010, 05:55:18 PM »
Take a look at what has been found in Africa....
....and compare them with the photos above.
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David
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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January 28, 2010, 09:38:02 AM »
That is incredibly interesting!
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Derek
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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January 31, 2010, 09:20:52 AM »
Interesting speculation!
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Bluehorse
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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January 31, 2010, 12:20:40 PM »
Iapetos was one of the Titans, son of Ouranos (Heaven) and Gaia (Earth). He was cast into Tartaroo ... on the plane of the elliptic into "outter darkness". I believe Iapetus was once a moon of earth.
The craters on Iapatos are NOT meteorlogical: an impact of those dimensions would have shattered it. They were caused by plasma bolts and the equatorial bulge was a compression feature as Iapetos travelled through the stripped "waters" of Mars which inundated the earth before Genesis 1. ( some of the oceanic life of the earth is really Martian in origin: I believe the earth was hit with a watery mass called Oceanus. If one is looking for the Oceans of Mars they need merely go to the beach.
In Hebrew mythology these are the waters of Nun. They are also the Primeval Waters of Chaos.
Whither Jupiter will become the "day Star" is interesting though, Regis of a new creation.
About 2012. I believe it to be a wheel system rather like the Antikithera ... only remembered as the stone version. The wheels should independently rotate though the impression is monolithic from the piece itself. The calendar is angellic and most likely the skill was given to Kukulkhan to construct it. Angels are to me obviously the "middlemen" of many of the earth's mysteries. The scriptures are filled with it and I believe that the subject of "angels" is the most poorly understood portion of the scriptures, to the extent that that the "revelation" of angels will be the focus of the next Millenium. There are lots of "surprises" waiting in the wings...haha
2012 is ABOUT the "descent" of the Host of Darkness. What people don't get about this is that it will be a new age of Tyranny which begins as the rebuilding of Tyre as the capital of the world. It will make Dubai look like a prequel. I believe Tyre will be brought back from the sea and become the international exchange for all earthly transactions, settlements, and courts. The UN will relocate and become the world parliament. Money and energy will become equivalencies. All resources will become
denominated in that equvalency down to the last molecule of substance. From a spiritual point of view the flesh will be King and men will become lovers of nothing but themselves. We're well on the road to that now.
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roadrunner
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 01, 2010, 04:14:37 AM »
I'm thinking Iapetus is not naturally made, as no where else in the whole solar system have we found a moon with a belly ridge around the equator like Iapetus. The density of this moon is 1.1 grams per cubic meter, about the density of ice with a little rock thrown in. Iapetus can't sustain that mountain ridge against it's own gravity if it were only ice with a few rocks. Also, all the other moons orbit in the plane of Saturn’s equator, but Iapatus orbits at about a 15 degree angle from the others.
As for the surface of Iapetus..."it looks like the bright side [of Iapetus] is primarily water ice – [but] not fresh water ice, because the reflectivity (although it is bright, it reflects about 60% of the radiation) … [is] kind of like dirty snow. So, we think there is something else there, other than pure water ice ... there is some organic material [there], some carbonate material that's rich in carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. Kind of crud; I think you could call it crud. The dark side, though, has very little water ice. It's primarily minerals and various organic material(s)…. We seem to [also] see a mineral that is iron- bearing in the infrared..." (Bonnie Buratti, Principal Scientist, Division of Earth and Space Sciences, NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), in Pasadena, California) Why does this moon have iron whereas the others do not? And, too, this iron-based coating will absorb the remaining visible and radio electromagnetic energy coming its way. If it's absorbing this energy, then why? Is it being stored? And if so, for what purpose?
I find the Mayan calendar extremely interesting, as Bluehorse is right about the wheels and the likeness to the Antikithera. The wheels seem, to me, to be based on astrological rotations such as the moon, Venus, etc. with each wheel tracing a different celestial object. But what is the long count tracing... 1872000 days, approximately equal to 5125.36 years? The origin date and end date are both determined by intermediate dates which have been attached to our calendar. But what if the origin date of 3114 BC was not the object of the calendar, but rather the end date of 2012?
I agree with Bluehorse also on the idea of 2012 being about the descent of the middlemen, the angels, the host of darkness. I think it is quite possible that they are involved with Iapetus, and could have easily given the end date to the Mayans.
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facedown
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 02, 2010, 04:32:32 PM »
You guys really come up with some wild theories. I hope this is not another case of SSS (Superbowl Steve-Syndrome).
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Bluehorse
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 03, 2010, 12:21:30 AM »
http://www.viewzone.com/impressions/
This gives a better impression of what the Mayan calendar IS. It's a computer. Click on page three. (I don't know to imbed images.)
My watch only gives the seconds, minutes, hours, days, and months. This chronograph measured time for over five millenia.
Who is "Superbowl Steve"? A football player? Does he have a theory about time? ...
I call the Mayan idea of time vision-time, not a whole lot different than space/time. If "Superbowl Steve" were to expand his notions of football, in the Mayan "game", the whole cycle of space/time was acted out as a transformation cycle ... is our calendar so different...don't we act out the year? and I might add, with considerably less "vision".
We do it over and over like lemmings, as if "time" wern't sacred. You will find that the scriptures have a great deal to say about time. The ancients regarded it as a triplicity of sorts ...space/time and spirit. The Mayans were closer to what the Bible calls time then we are today in our culture. The wheel is an alpha/omega wheel.
It doesn't end at 2012. Nor will your watch stop ticking...until the end of time.
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roadrunner
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 03, 2010, 02:23:20 AM »
That's an interesting idea about time....space and spirit being of it's essence. I agree with that, as I believe that the spiral aspect of the galaxy itself is the evidence of time, and I believe that time works in exactly that way....spiral, and therefore also spacial.
I agree with your assessment of the Mayan calendar, as a computer. But my question is this: each wheel of the clock keeps track of different elements of time, different periods relating to aspects of the cosmos in some way. The 260 day cycle clocks the transit of venus, for example. So what does the 5125 year track? The only thing that I can make it out to be watching is the great galactic cycle of 25,800 years, only they would say 25625 years in that case, and in a fifth of that time period, thereby gaining the 'fifth world'. The problem with this is that their previous worlds don't fit into the mold. So what does 5125 relate to? Why 5125 in the first place? Why not 5289? And why start the cycle at 3114 BC? Or was there something they were tracking to occur in 2012 that they were interested in, and they started the countdown in 3114 BC? Something that they did in 3114 BC that was scheduled to happen in 2012....something big, to bring in the next 'world', the new sun, in order that we are 'transformed' into higher creatures, more spiritual beings.
I don't think anything ends in 2012, as I am suggesting that perhaps something happens, which was designed long ago to happen, in 2012 in order to bring in the "New Age".
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facedown
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El Curiouso
Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 03, 2010, 06:04:04 AM »
Quote from: Bluehorse on February 03, 2010, 12:21:30 AM
Who is "Superbowl Steve"? A football player? Does he have a theory about time? ...
No, he was a conspiracy theorist who predicted all kinds of things to happen which did not happen. His stuff was
interesting but so are most conspiracy theories. You listen to them more in a way of being entertained but really
believing that they will happen isn't possible. I don't know if it's worth getting too caught up in things. Maybe 2012
is over and nothing happened and then? Then all the people who spent years researching this stuff will feel pretty dumb.
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roadrunner
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 05, 2010, 02:53:29 PM »
Consider that Saturn was called Chronos by the Greeks, which is also their word for Time. Why is this planet called Time? And why was the Latin Saturnalia (the Greek Cronia) festival in the middle of December, which is when the 2012 'event' is supposed to happen?
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...the ancient sources also reveal legends that link Saturn not with agricultures introduction but the days before it;
a mythical golden age
when food was available without the associated toil and mankind was carefree, that finds its echo in the festival’s emphasis on leisure and pleasure.
Elements of the festival support primitive Italic origins. The pottery figures of the sigillares are transmuted sacrifices to Saturn, pottery representations of the human heads once placed on the god’s altar. Likewise, the
candles represent torches to light
against the darkness of Saturn’s chaos. Darkness represents the time before civilisation, the time of chaos which fits with the idea of misrule. But it also epitomises winter.
Links to a mythical golden age in the past, or one in the future? Or both? And lighting candles could represent what they suggest, but it could also be more...especially if one considers our age one of darkness and this new age coming to be one of light. If so, then what does Saturn called Time have to do with it?
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Christie
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 06, 2010, 12:41:22 AM »
I find this subject fascinating, but so way beyond me that all I do is struggle to try and really understand any of it--but, I did read awhile back, that some believe that Iapetus, if it's artificial[which it definitely does appear to be] might be "Tartarus"--the place that the apostle Paul spoke about, in which some of the demonic, fallen angels have been imprisoned--also, it was mentioned that a "bottomless pit" might be a 'pit' that is round, and hollow, and in which it's occupants would be weightless--thus--there really would be no up or down, so--no bottom to it--and, that perhaps Iapetus, if it really is aka "Tararus", those fallen angels chained inside of it by God's angels, might really have an important role to play during satan's reign on earth, once he and his fallen angel followers are finally thrown bodily out of heaven during the Tribulation period---the speculation was--what if the angel who had the key to the bottomless pit, and who opens it, and lets out those fallen angels that are chained within it, out--actually goes to Iapetus, unlocks it's 'door', and let's those fallen beings out of it?--it was a very interesting premise to say the least!--
--and, Iapetus was thought to literally be something like that 'Death Star', because it could be used as such, once those fallen angels are unchained, and allowed to use it--will they 'drive' Iapetus here to earth, and use it against mankind left here on earth, in 'the end'?--I don't know, but wouldn't that make a whale of a good sci-fi story?!--or, has one already been written using that as it's main plot vehicle?!
Anyway, I just think all of this is so amazing!
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Winter
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 07, 2010, 12:46:18 PM »
Hi Christie!
I find this interesting as well.
My little handicapped boy used to have the wildest dreams. Even when he was barely out of his toddler years he told me about these evil creatures buried in the rocks on Mars. And now that he has progressed and can write, he draws pictures and writes stories about them.
He was drawing hieroglyphics, maps, caves, creatures, etc... as well. His special ed teacher could not believe how detailed they were, this was the second grade. They entered it into a competition and it won an award. Had he had not been retarded he could have gone national.
He said he draws what he sees in the dreams.
He talked a lot about those monster men gods who were put in the rocks there because they were bad.
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roadrunner
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Re: 2012 and Iapetus
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February 07, 2010, 01:06:03 PM »
Speaking of the monster men gods being put in the rocks of Mars....very interesting. And so I thought, well, why Mars? I've read many times about the angels who were put in Tartarus being chained there, and elsewhere I've read that these chains are made of iron. Somehow iron must negate their strength and energy, like shortcircuiting it or something. And then Mars has a lot of iron on its surface.
I've wondered if perhaps these angels who came to earth and did all that the ancients claimed that they did, that when they knew the Flood was coming, headed for Mars to escape. There they built up their fortress to wait out the disasters coming to the earth. But they got buried there in the whole ordeal. I don't believe that the Flood was just an earthly phenomena, as I believe the whole heavens were involved. As I believe it will be again during the next cataclysm, the one by fire.
So my next question is, if they knew that the earth would be destroyed once by water and once by fire, and they escaped the flood, then did they plan for the fire also? Is Iapetus part of that plan to offset the fire devastation?
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